Continuum surveys In short, the points to clarify are: - the A/Tsys values of the European design: the 10500 is below the strawman design to which all original plans and calculations were based. To get the same sensitivity a four- fold integration time is needed. This is not a problem if the instrument has multiple FOV capabilities, so dedicating a beam for a long time to HI surveys will not impair other observing programs. - The FOV of the Karst design is too small, but here a focal plane array could help. We should say this so the designers know. This may then be a level 2-3 compliance. - Continuum surveys: The China design definitely has too short a maximum baseline. The European design could be stretched a bit. Maximum resolution is better than required to beat confusion. The highest frequency of the Europens design is in principle OK, pushing to higher frequencies is desired, partly to increase the resolution to better than 0.01 arcsec. Both are level 3 compliant I think. Continuum surveys: China: FOV far too small. Longest baseline far too small. Spatial DNR lower than required. Europe: A/Tsys is too low but multiple beams compensate that. Highest frequency lower than other designs. Can perhaps be stretched to few GHZ range. Much depends on confusion which should not be limiting if langest baseline indeed 2000-3000 km. India: unclear: need to know maximum baseline. Ozlens: OK? Need to study baseline distribution and spatial DNR Ozcyl: OK? Need to study baseline distribution and spatial DNR USA: OK? Need to study baseline distribution and spatial DNR Canada: OK? Need to study baseline distribution and spatial DNR Source: Thijs van der Hulst, Chair of WG4 Continuum surveys: China: array too small, with no chance of making it larger, and the FOV is also too small. This makes the confusion at the lower frequencies unacceptable. The spatial DNR is also lower than most. Europe: upper frequency limit too low, so can't find the faintest flat-spectrum objects at high redshift. The upper baseline limit isn't too bad. India: I don't regard the lower frequency bound as an issue here: although the maximum baseline isn't specified it should be available (somewhere!). Ozlens: The large FOV is a bonus, but without a detailed layout of the stations, the spatial DNR isn't clear Ozcyl: The higher upper frequency limit is a bonus, but the spatial DNR isn't yet good enough, though it could be. I like the ability to work at higher frequencies because it gives the possibility of finding low-power, flat-spectrum, star-forming objects at moderate z. USA: The lower frequency limit isn't much of an issue, and the spatial DNR is a minor issue. The high frequency limit is good. Canada: The large number of beams trades off against the FOV, and the extended frequency range is good. The spatial DNR is an issue for complicated fields. Source: Mark Birkinshaw from WG4.