From ccarilli@aoc.nrao.edu Tue Aug 6 12:17:00 2002 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:21:23 -0600 From: Chris Carilli To: Steve Rawlings Subject: AGN -- notes / we'll need to fill in forms for them Heino Falcke wrote: > Chris: > > As I told you, this is the worst of time for me to respond to all of > the SKA questions. As you know this all came very quick and so I > couldn't do much about it. I am sitting here during my summer vacation > and try to connect to the internet through my mobile phone. > > I will therefore only send a very brief reply (without the forms) to > the WP designs. I will also restrict myself to three level 1 science > goals from the Bologna meeting (I gave you some more ideas in my > previous email). > > I. Detection of faint AGN from z=0 to z=infinity (to make it easy, > ``faint'' is restricted to FRI radio galaxies). This requires: microJy > sensitivity, 1'' resolution, simultaneous multi-frequency coverage > (i.e., minimum two,better 4 widely separated IFs), fast source > switching (large number of sources) and good snapshot image quality. > > - as far as I understand the sensitivity and resolution is met by all > designs, so the absolute minimum requirement is met by all. > > China: 2 IF is minimum, max IF sep. not specified, response time may > be long for large surveys or monitoring campaign of many sources, if > source switching takes that long. > > Europe: max sep. of IFs is OK, if only out to 1.4 GHz, however, at > least 6 cm is needed for consistency with older surveys and to be > sensitive for flat-spectrum sources. Multi-beaming and fast switching > is big plus, of course. > > India: Freq. range OK, otherwise not enough information, > source switching time may be long > > Australia 1: FOV good, source switching time may be long, what is > max. IF sep.? > > Australia 2 (cyl. refl.): multibeaming and freq. coverage is OK, what > is max. IF sep. and BW? How good is the beamshape in crowded fields > for snapshots (e.g. to unambiguously pick out linear features like > jets with their many pencil beams)? > > USA: everything fine, fast source switching may be a bit inefficient, > sep. of IFs is OK for dual-freq. observations. > > II) high-brightness temperature radio cores to uncover even faint AGN > and study relativistic outflows (requires in addition mas-scale > resolution - at least as an expansion option) > > China: seems difficult to expand baseline. Europe & Austr. 1 are a bit > on the short side too - needs to show expansion option, otherwise AGN > are not well covered! > > III) H2O masers, requires 22 GHz and 10^4 spectral channels. > > Only US design meets these specs. The omission of H2O masers really > hurts. > > That's it. Of course one could say more, e.g. about AGN variability > monitoring (including Intra-Day-Variability of faint sources) and > detection of outbursts with a transient monitor (that would probably > benefit the European design), and circular polarization etc., which > are not really covered by the form and can be quite significant. > > Best wishes > > Heino > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___ ___ _____ ___ _____ |PD Dr. Heino Falcke > /__/\ /__/| /____/\ /__/| /____/\ |Max-Planck-Institut f. Radioastronomie > | \ \ /| || | o \/ | || | o \/ |Auf dem Hügel 69 > | |\ \//| || | __/ | ||f| __/ |D-53121 Bonn, Germany > | ||\_/ | || | || | || | |\ \ |E-mail: hfalcke@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de > |__|/ |__|/ |__|/ |__|/ |__|/\_||Fax: +49/(0)228/525-229 > |Tel.: +49/(0)228/525-217 > B O N N |Mobile: +49 178/5672532 > |Email2SMS: 491785672532@sms.talkline.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Web: http://www.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de/staff/hfalcke > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------